Friday, November 10, 2017

Revelations about Roy Moore's taste for tender flesh raise questions about U.S. Senate race, plus integrity of the AL Supreme Court when Moore was in charge


Roy Moore
(From nytimes.com)
Yesterday's bombshell report that unmasked Roy Moore as a religious and political fraud --  one with a creepy taste for underage flesh -- caused many Alabamians to look forward. The first question that came to many minds probably was: "How will this affect 'Judge Roy's' chances in the special U.S. Senate election on Dec. 12, against Democrat Doug Jones? Could Roy actually lose in a Deep Red state, where he was the overwhelming favorite?"

Such questions are understandable, given the Alabama Senate race is attracting national attention, and election day is barely a month away. But citizens also should look backward and ask questions about the Alabama Supreme Court, which Moore "led" as chief justice.

Once Moore won his second term as Alabama's chief justice in 2012, evidence gradually mounted that the state's high court was riddled with corruption. An oft-heard refrain after Moore returned to the bench went something like this: "You might not agree with Roy's mix of religion and politics, but you have to admit that he has impeccable integrity and deep respect for the law. At least our courts won't be corrupt and favor the big-law special interests. The 'little man' finally will get a fair shake."

Heck, even I wanted to believe that -- especially since I had first-hand experience with Moore's opponent, Democrat Robert Vance Jr., and knew Vance was corrupt. Vance was (and is) a tool of the big downtown Birmingham law firms, such as Maynard Cooper and Gale and Adams and Reese/Lange Simpson. If I remember correctly, I actually voted for Moore in 2012; I sure as hell didn't vote for Vance.

It quickly became apparent that Roy Moore was unable -- or unwilling -- to lead a clean shop at the Alabama Supreme Court. Perhaps the most obvious signs of corruption on the Good Ship Roy came with glaringly unlawful rulings related to gaming. Another sign hit close to home for Mrs. Schnauzer and me, and it involves my unlawful five-month incarceration in Shelby County.

On the gambling issue, Alabama law is not complicated: Various counties had approved constitutional amendments allowing electronic bingo, and it is well settled that a constitutional amendment trumps any state statute that might designate e-bingo machines as illegal "gaming devices." The amendment in Macon County, home to VictoryLand, designated the sheriff to promulgate rules for the bingo games. When the sheriff determined the e-machines were a form of bingo -- and not illegal slot machines -- VictoryLand was set to roll under its owner, Milton McGregor.

Instead, Moore's Supreme Court went against its own precedent regarding constitutional amendments -- and usurped the will of Macon County voters and the authority of the sheriff --  to rule the VictoryLand machines were unlawful. That closed VictoryLand for more than three years, and Center Stage Alabama in Houston County was the subject of similar nonsensical findings.

Knowledgeable observers scratched their heads at the dumbfounding rulings emanating from Montgomery. How could the state's high court so blatantly issue rulings that were contrary to well-established law?

Well, we might now know the answer to that question. The Supreme Court rulings consistently favored GOP corporatist politicos -- Bob and Rob Riley, Luther Strange, Mike Hubbard -- who have been the beneficiaries of Indian gaming facilities (in Mississippi and Alabama) that wanted to close down their competitors in the private sector. The Supreme Court clearly was doing the bidding of the Riley Gang, but why was Roy Moore allowing this to happen? After all, his support comes from the Religious Right, not from the Pro-Business crowd.

Yesterday's report from The Washington Post almost certainly has its roots with supporters of Moore's opponent, Doug Jones. While Jones appears as a Democrat on the ballot, his most powerful support comes from corporate Republicans -- like Rob Riley, Karl Rove, and Bill Canary. What if Moore has known for years that his political enemies on the right held compromising information about him? What if he stayed silent on the gambling issues, in hopes it would help keep his secrets under wraps.

That might very well explain the Supreme Court's bogus rulings on e-bingo issues. It also might help explain what happened to me in fall 2013. That's when Rob Riley and lobbyist Liberty Duke filed a defamation lawsuit against me; my wife, Carol; and Legal Schnauzer. According to press reports, the Alabama Supreme Court appointed retired circuit judge Claud Neilson to hear the case, and he proceeded to have me thrown in jail, contrary to more than 230 years of First Amendment law.

Neilson's unlawful orders favored Riley and Duke at every turn. It was as if Roy Moore's Supreme Court had hand-picked a ringer to make sure Riley and Duke would get away with having me unlawfully incarcerated for five months. If Carol had not managed to elude capture -- allowing her to alert the press that I had essentially been kidnapped (without any sign of a warrant) from inside my own home -- who knows what would have happened. I continue to believe that if both of us were in custody, we would have been killed -- and the public would have had no clue what happened to us.

Did Roy Moore allow Claud Neilson to be appointed as a stooge, all because Moore was worried about dirt the Riley Machine had on him?

Perhaps we will learn for sure in the coming days. But we do know this: Rumors about possible dirt in Roy Moore's background have been floating around in Alabama for years. I doubt there is a journalist in the state who hasn't heard about them, although nailing them down for news stories proved difficult -- until The Washington Post broke through with yesterday's report.

The fallout going forward remains unknown. But the evidence looking backward suggests Roy Moore was a pathetically weak chief justice -- and e-bingo casinos (plus the thousands of Alabamians who lost jobs at them) have suffered; Carol and I have suffered, with our lives possibly put in danger. Alabama's image has suffered because both the e-bingo stories and my incarceration received national, even international, news coverage.

Regardless of what one thinks about The Washington Post report, this much can't be seriously disputed: Roy Moore was an ineffective, compromised chief justice. With longstanding rumors finally turning into headlines, he almost certainly would be an ineffective, compromised U.S. senator.

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just a thought. Doug Jones friends with VP Biden who is friends with Rollins, Jones has flipped on the Rileys . Sessions running around like a weasel in a box looking for a way out. Dump Roy -Sessions resigns and runs for senate . To people who say there is no legal way to do this-- BINGO!

Anonymous said...

It's funny that these rumors are just coming out. If they were true, wouldn't someone have said something earlier, like when he had the whole 10 commandment debacle.

legalschnauzer said...

@7:56 --

A few thoughts:

(1) These aren't rumors anymore. When something is reported in The Washington Post, it's gone well beyond rumor stage;

(2) This kind of scrutiny shows the difference between running for AL Sup. Court and running for U.S. Senate Jeff Sessions has shown he wasn't ready for the big leagues, and Moore is showing the same thing.

(3) I would encourage you to re-read the post. It shows that, as chief justice, Moore did the bidding of the state's right-wing Riley Machine -- or at least, he didn't do anything to stop it. As U.S. Senate candidate, Moore was opposed to the corporate agenda, while Doug Jones will be a corporate tool, so the Riley types went after Moore.

(4) It's possible WaPo broke this story on its own, but I'd say it's unlikely. Even the best journalists need help, tips, direction on where to look. I'd say this kind of help came from corporate Republicans, probably with national connections. I would bet a fair amount of money was spent to dig up this information and feed it to WaPo or at least give WaPo guidance on where to look. It's possible the money was spent a long time ago, and corporate types held it for the right moment, when Roy Moore looked like he would become a problem for them.

(5) No way Alabama Democrats were involved in this. Democrats, in general, aren't smart enough, mean enough, or tough enough to pull this off. I'm not saying some Democrats aren't smart. But they aren't smart in a street-fighting way. This is political street-fighting of the highest order.

Anonymous said...

Gotta give Ole Roy credit for going after girls. Most GOP fellers go after boys.

Anonymous said...

But . . . but . . . Roy's wife is 14 years younger than him.

Anonymous said...

Comment coming, whining about Roger Shuler's blog including Roger Shuler's thoughts, in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

Anonymous said...

Has Moore ever performed worth a crap in any position he's held. The man is unqualified, folks, even if he can quote the Book of Jeremiah, word for word.

Anonymous said...

Jim Main has been running interference for the Rileys on the Supreme Court for years. Moore was chief justice, but just sat back and let it happen. Look at the Charles Todd Henderson case. What a joke, a Riley special

Anonymous said...

Based on efforts of some Republicans to justify Moore's behavior, it sounds like quite a few of them know these reports are true -- and GOPers probably have known about the basics or a long time.

legalschnauzer said...

@9:41 --

Agreed. The Breitbart folks, Auditor Jim Zeigler . . . they are among the Republicans who seem to be admitting the story is accurate.

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Anonymous said...

Can't believe anyone ever thought Roy Moore had integrity. Just shows what a good con artist he is.

Anonymous said...

I'm preaching to the choir here, but Neilson screwed you over so badly. Anybody with the slightest bit of legal knowledge knows that. It's embarrassing that the Alabama legal profession let that happen without speaking up. Even the ACLU didn't really do anything. Shameful, but I hope you get justice in the end.

Anonymous said...

What happened with the Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein cases? A few women came out, and that unleashed a flood of accusers.

I bet Old Roy knows more of this is coming. Tip of the iceberg.

Anonymous said...

Shame it took a national publication to out this. Where were you, Roger? Where you were, Donald Watkins? al.com?

Shame Shame Shame that you allowed Roy Moore to embarrass this state for 20 years while you've indulged yourselves on salacious stories.

Roger, you've been too busy outing insurance salesmen who spent $49 on Ashley Madison and running down parking tickets of policemen in Missouri and comparing your "package" to that of Bill Pryor to do any serious journalistic work.

SHAME.

Anonymous said...

I'd believe it more if it weren't 30+ days prior to election day. LS, i would respectively disagree with you and say that both the DEMs and GOP are capable of this

Andrew Kreig said...

Nice column once again, Roger, and this is a topic where you're the expert.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Judge Bad Puppy is worrying if he is in the on deck circle? (With a coconut and wood?) lol!

Anonymous said...

I wonder if MATRIX helped dig up the dirt on Ole Roy. I could see Rove, Riley, Canary (and maybe even Sessions) helping fund a MATRIX effort to out Ole Roy. What think ye?

e.a.f. said...

How will this effect Moore's chances of being elected? No problem. Just look at Trump, the video was all over t.v. and he was still elected. it would appear the American attitude towards women is violating the law and assaulting women is no problem. Its just business as usual. Now of course with all the news being made in Hollywood about sexual assault there maybe some changes in voting patterns, but that is doubtful. This is Alabama after all.

The Washington Post may have had the information for some time. When all the other information started being revealed regarding "Hollywood" figures, they thought they might do the article.

My take on this is, the Hollywood types will be hung out to dry, the politicians will get a pass on all of it. They are required by the financial elites to keep their businesses going.

legalschnauzer said...

@1:46 --

I think your scenario is quite plausible. Wouldn't be surprised if MATRIX was involved. At the moment, I'd say MATRIX has problems in its death match with Donald Watkins. But the legwork on the Roy story probably was done before the Watkins tangle commenced.

legalschnauzer said...

Andrew:

Thanks for your kind words. What do you make of the comment @11:31? If I had broken the Roy Moore story, he would have been first in line to complain: "Schnauzer all you ever do is write about salacious sex stories, and these sources aren't strong enough, it's only rumors . . . blah, blah, blah."

Journalists know a lot about the old "damned if you do, damned if you don't" syndrome.

Anonymous said...

If the WAPO got in bed with MATRIX then they could get what they played for!

Anonymous said...

Agree with 10:41. Look for more women to come out between now and election day -- I'd say about one week before election.

legalschnauzer said...

@1:52 --

You make it sound like WaPo got an STD. Maybe that is a risk of dealing with MATRIX. Must . . . wear . . . full-body . . . condom . . .

Anonymous said...

You probably know this, LS, but if you had been able to appeal Neilson's ruling on Riley case, Judge Roy would have sat back and let the appellate courts issue an "Affirmed, No Opinion." You've seen those?

legalschnauzer said...

Oh, yes, I've seen those. In my deal, there was no jury trial (as required by law), and no final judgment -- which means there was nothing that adjudicated all claims of the parties. Neilson might have issued something with the title "Final Order," but Alabama law makes it clear that is relevant; a determination of whether something is a final judgment depends on what the judge did, or did not do. And he must make a determination on all claims of the parties. To this day, there's never been an appealable order, which means the injunction and attorney fees against me, everything is bogus -- especially in a defamation case that requires a jury trial, by law. There was no trial in the Riley/Duke matter at all, of any kind.

For those who are interested in legal esoterica, here is a case on that very issue:


http://alabamaappellatewatch.com/uploads/file/1080408.PDF

Anonymous said...

I think Roy came up with the whole 10 Commandments schtick because he knew he had been a very bad boy, and this was an effort to convince himself that he really is a good person, even though he's a child molester. Then, he realized the 10 Commandments could be used as a political tool and drooling Alabamians would fall for it. Still, it all originated with Roy's Demons.

This should be a movie: "The Last Temptation of Roy Moore."

legalschnauzer said...

Memo to @3:34 --

You think it's inaccurate to state that Roy Moore has a "taste for tender flesh"? This is from the WaPo article, an event that Leigh Corfman describes when she was 14 years old:

"Alone with Corfman, Moore chatted with her and asked for her phone number, she says. Days later, she says, he picked her up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, drove her about 30 minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was and kissed her. On a second visit, she says, he took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear."

If that's not a man with a "taste for tender flesh," what is it? What she's really describing is an act of child molestation. Would you prefer I use that term? Compared to other accurate terms that could have been used, I let Moore off lightly.

Anonymous said...

Roy had to seek out girls because very few adult women would put up with his warped view of the world. He's probably a control freak, and it's easier to control a girl than it is to control an adult female.

Anonymous said...

Where do I go to place a bet that Roy is exposed for some interest in the seriously kinky shit (other than the already alleged criminal underage sex shit) before the fat lady sings?

Roy kind of looks like he could be a Cleveland Steamer kind of guy. Another pious David Vitter type if you get my drift. Don't google any of that shit if you are at work!

Anonymous said...

Roy Moore has always chosen his sins. Not saying his sons legal problems are his fault but what if he had killed innocent people while driving drunk? And drugs? The son never spent more than one night in jail for each offense. Total hypocrite....he can see everybody else's sins but not his own.

Anonymous said...

Aboard the Eliza Battle the guest were gathered at the bow when Minda said" Oh! I forgot to send Grannie Luke a birthday card." Big Luther said that he would deliver the card because he knew where Grannie's house was in the big swamp.Young Jessica said that she would go with him. Minda said it would be a dirty journey and Young Jessica replied that she would ride the cross-eyed thoroughbred to stay above the mud. She added that they would leave the cross-eyed thoroughbred at Minda's barn. In the Pilot house Captain Marshall was waiting for Bob,Thomas and John Yancey when Big Luther and Young Jessica departed. When Bob Yancey entered he informed the Captain that Thomas And John Yancey had a confession to make. Thomas Yancey said that when the guest were boarding the Eliza Battle, He and John Yancey had brought a feral cat aboard ship. John Yancey said the cat was hissing and growling causing them to catch it in a trap and then they put it in a wooden box. They marked the box Top Secret and hid it under the saddle Minda used to sit cross-ways on that cross-eyed horse. Bob Yancey informed the Captain that he had seen Big Luther slip the box under young Jessica's petticoats as she was getting cross-ways of that cross-eyed horse. The Captain asked Thomas Yancey if the lid was nailed on tight. He replied that could not find any nails and soaked the wooden lid in water to make it swell. He added that if it does not get too hot under those petticoats and dry out the wood , that cat will behave himself. Minda's barn was built by her daddy when he was governor. It was built right next to the property line because when he was governor he never had to deal with any set-backs.Miss Willie ,who lived next door, built her milking shed on back of the barn. She was a old maid and 90 years old. She loved to churn her own butter and kept a jersey cow for the butter fat rich milk. She was milking her cow when she heard someone in the barn. Big Luther not being a farmer but knowing to shut the barn doors before the horse got out , would shut one door only to have the other swing back open. In the corner of the barn he found a big pile of old axe handles and he took one to prop the door shut. Meanwhile young Jessica reached under her petticoats to retrieve the wooden box and stuck her hand in that feral cat's mouth. It chomped down and would not let go. She went OOOOOH!!!! It hurt so bad she began to Moan. Miss Willie hearing the noise stepped onto her milking stool and looked through a crack in the wall. She saw Young Jessica with her hand under her petticoats moaning. Young Jessica shouted 'Big Luther! I need you! Young Jessica shouted OOOOOOHHH!!!!! Big Luther I need you to take care of this cat now! Miss Willie saw Big Luther run to Young Jessica and say " I can't get to it with you wearing all those petticoats. Young Jessica slid her other hand under her petticoat and grabbed that feral cat by the back the neck. OOOOOOHHHH!!! GET THEM OFF! GET THEM OFF NOW!!!!!! Miss willie shifted her weight and a leg broke on the stool. Knowing that she would need to identify these horse thieves in a police line-up, she went to the barn door to peek inside. The feral cat turned loose and Young Jessica slung it onto Big Luther's face. He stumbled backwards out the door, knocking Miss Will heels over head and He ended caught in the grapevine. Young Jessica standing Buck naked said "Miss Willie ,Luther and I brought Grannie Luke a birthday card." Miss Willie replied that Roy Moore had been by earlier with a birthday card for Minda's Grannie Luke. Miss Willie, needing a new milking stool, decided to sell her story to the Washington Boast. She called Grannie Luke ,who was the Editor,and told her story. The next morning's paper had the story of Roy Moore's accusers and a story about Big Luther going to solve the country's feral cat problem.

Anonymous said...

knew you were. You are a price of shit.

legalschnauzer said...

@8:58 --

I'm a "price of shit"? Tell me, what is the price of shit? You should know.

Anonymous said...

Roger, If 8:58 comment is directed to the comment at 8:56 then 8:58 must have been reading it as it was being typed. Check the digital footprint of 8:58.

legalschnauzer said...

Pretty sure the comment at 8:58 was directed at me, not 8:56.

Mark Hayden said...

If Moore had he served oligarchs like Rove and Riley,then the corrupt establishment he served would have kept Moore in Power. Moore is first national candidate to suggest impeachment the judges for applying their own doctrines and interpretations to law . The modern judiciary was modeled after the Jewish Sanhedrin council that had complete power to interpret law in Jerusalem. In Jerusalem as in US and common law countries the real power lies with judges who interpret the law. Judges allowed full power to interpret can create fiat money as in the Jerusalem Temple as in the US Federal Reserve.Even the Supreme Court building facades are modeled after ancient temples. The Judges of the Sanhedrin also had immunity for misconduct their version of judicial immunity. The Sanhedrin judges and High priest judged Christ even though they had a conflict of interest. The Sanhedrin used their religious power to murder Jesus and ten of the 12 apostles. Jesus was a political opponent of the Sanhedrin and was murdered without a trial of common men or the Roman governor. Gay rights, abortion, slavery are all decided not by US law but by whims of the appointed federal judges. The official ruler of Jerusalem was Pilate who found no guilt in Jesus. But the Sanhedrin using common law and their traditions murdered Jesus for political reasons and put a sign "King of Jews" above his head. Judicial rule of the elites and oligarchs is merely a form of slavery.The Sanhedrin was the real King of the Jews and Jesus had opposed the Sanhedrin power. Americans wonder why their votes do not affect the system. But the US legal system is ultimately controlled by case law and opinion of elite judges . In US federal system the judges are not elected but created doctrine of absolute immunity , judicial immunity , lifetime appointments for judges . Those judges have been corrupted for millennium by the oligarchs who control the system. In Jerusalem and in US , the judges controlled and bribed by oligarchs rule. So little has changed .If necessary the Swamp and Pharisees will either kill Moore or impeach him. They want Moore to shut up about the corrupt power of over reaching judiciary.
I doubt the convenient slurs of Moore's political enemies have merit. The Swamp is merely trying new tactics after spending thirty million supporting Strange. The Swamp falsely convicted Senator Ted Steven weeks before his election using perjured testimony in 2010. Then the conviction was vacated after the election. Then Steven is conveniently killed in airplane accident . Look at the lies written about Senator Ted Stevens. The crooks own the media and do their best to own the government. https://www.rollcall.com/…/recalling_the_injustice_done_to_…
I have even filed ethics complaint against four of the Supreme Court justices.

Mark Hayden said...

THIS IS BS
Alone with Corfman, Moore chatted with her and asked for her phone number, she says. Days later, she says, he picked her up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, drove her about 30 minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was and kissed her. On a second visit, she says, he took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear."
First there are no witnesses. The fictitious 14 year old meets Moore around "the corner" so there are no witnesses even her mother or family . She initiates a trip leaving her home she would also initiate touching his underwear. Furthermore , had she been kidnapped her mother would be looking for her because she was gone at night 30 minutes there and 30 minutes back or atleast 90 to 120 minutes. Or did her mother know she was off with a older man. If her mother knew then her mother gave her permission and she could have picked him up. No the story is 98 out of a 100 on the BS meter. Is that the best fabrication WAPO can come up with. When you hear a story like this think it through?
Those who believe this story were also believers in Hillary.

Anonymous said...

Moore was a DA in small town Bama years ago. People were supposedly scared of him. Sad to say, i don't think he was the only dirty DA who got away with all sorts of allegedly sick shit involving young women