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Four days after last Thursday night's presidential debate, Americans probably still are wondering: "How many statements made in the debate were actually true?" The Poynter Institute for Media Studies, a nonprofit journalism school and research organization in St. Petersburg, Florida, conducted a comprehensive fact-check on the debate, and the results were disheartening -- at least for those seeking serious, fact-based discussion on major issues of the day. The debate essentially turned into a falsehood-infested exercise in gaslighting, thanks mainly to Donald Trump's willingness to engage in shameless, rapid-fire rhetoric that had little, if anything, to do with facts. Trump came away looking like a "winner," based on post-debate polls. Biden, struggling to clearly express himself while struggling with a cold, appeared to be the "loser," but he clearly outperformed Trump on substance -- and any objective observer surely saw Biden as the more presidential and informed of the two. One CNN fact-checker said Trump mostly presented an "avalanche of lies." From the CNN report:
Both President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump
made false and misleading claims during CNN’s presidential debate on
Thursday – but Trump did so far more than Biden, just like in their debates in 2020.
Trump made more than 30 false claims at the Thursday debate. They included numerous claims that CNN and others have already debunked during the current presidential campaign or prior.
Trump’s repeat falsehoods included his assertions that some Democratic-led states allow babies to be executed after birth, that every legal scholar and everybody in general wanted Roe v. Wade overturned, that there were no terror attacks during his presidency, that Iran didn’t fund terror groups during his presidency, that the US has provided more aid to Ukraine than Europe has, that Biden for years referred to Black people as “super predators,” that Biden is planning to quadruple people’s taxes, that then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi turned down 10,000 National Guard troops for the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, that Americans don’t pay the cost of his tariffs on China and other countries, that Europe accepts no American cars, that he is the president who got the Veterans Choice program through Congress, and that fraud marred the results of the 2020 election.
Trump also added some new false claims, such as his
assertions that the US currently has its biggest budget deficit and its
biggest trade deficit with China. Both records actually occurred under
Trump.
Biden made at least nine false or misleading claims in the
debate.
Poynter's fact check shows exactly how and when Trump resorted to lies, while CNN moderators Jake Tapper and Dana Bash -- perhaps overwhelmed by the sheer volume of Trump's dishonest statements -- struggled to maintain any sense of control.
Poyntor's post-debate breakdown shows that if either candidate "won" the debate, it was Biden; Trump did not do anything to merit being called a winner, and he once again raised this question: Is he a serious candidate and does he try to even pretend that his campaign is serious.
The fact check at poynter.org, with assistance from PolitiFact, found the following:
* Trump made statements that were mostly or totally false on immigration. His claim that Biden allowed people to come to the U.S. "from jails, prisons, and mental institutions" was rated "pants on fire" false.
* Biden's claim that he changed the law so that "we now have 40 percent fewer illegal border crossings" was rated mostly true.
* On border security, Trump's claim that "we had the safest border in the history of our country" was rated mostly false. Poynter wrote:
When the COVID-19 pandemic started, immigration dropped drastically
worldwide as governments enacted policies limiting people’s movement.
In the months before Trump left office, illegal immigration was rising again. A spike in migrants, especially unaccompanied minors, started in the spring 2020 during the Trump administration and generally continued to climb each month.
Illegal immigration during Trump’s administration was higher than under both of former President Barack Obama’s terms.
* Biden's claim that "Border Patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position" was half true. Poynter wrote:
The National Border Patrol Council — the U.S. Border Patrol’s union endorsed a bipartisan border security bill in February. But it didn’t endorse Biden.
Here’s what Brandon Judd, the union’s president, said about the bill in February:
“While
not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction
and is far better than the current status quo. This is why the National
Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick
passage.” Judd said his organization never has endorsed Biden, but did endorse Trump in 2020.
* Trump's claim that Biden "allowed in 18 million people" is rated false. Poynter explains:
Immigration officials have encountered immigrants
illegally crossing the border 9.7 million times under Biden’s
presidency. When accounting for “got aways” — people who aren’t stopped
by border officials — the number rises to about 11.4 million.
But encounters don’t mean admissions.
Encounters represent events, so one person who tried to cross the
border twice counts for two encounters. Also, not everyone encountered
is let in. Many encounters result in deportations. The Department of
Homeland Security estimates about 4 million encounters have led to expulsions or removals.
* On inflation and the economy, Trump's claim that "(Biden) caused this inflation. I gave him a country with … essentially no inflation. It was perfect.”was rated mostly false. Poynter writes:
When Biden was inaugurated, year-over-year inflation was about 1.4%.
However, that was shaped by the still-weak economy during the
coronavirus pandemic, (which started on Trump's watch) and was still a serious threat when Biden was
inaugurated.
As the pandemic conditions improved, the economy
accelerated. Consumers were ready to buy products, but the pandemic had
prompted supply chain shortages. This, combined with Russia’s invasion
of Ukraine which raised gasoline prices, led to inflation, peaking at 9%
about a year and a half into Biden’s presidency. That was the highest
in about four decades.
Economists generally say Biden’s
coronavirus relief plan, the American Rescue Plan, did exacerbate
inflation by putting more money into consumers’ hands at a time when
supplies were running short. But they do not believe that Biden caused
high inflation single-handedly.
* Trump's claim that “You look at the cost of food, where it’s double, triple and quadruple.” was rated false. Poynter writes:
Food costs have risen faster under President Joe
Biden than under any of his five most recent predecessors. However, the
21% increase in food prices on Biden’s watch is well below what Trump
claimed. Quadrupling food costs would be an increase of 300%, or more
than 10 times larger than what Trump said.
Specific categories of
food have spiked more than food prices overall. For instance, egg
prices are 84% higher today than when Biden took office. But for every
food category that has outrun overall food inflation, there’s another
category that has risen more slowly than average.
Also, this
increase was spread over three and a half years, making the annual
increase about 6%, part of which has been offset by rising wages.
* Biden's claim that "“Economists say (Trump’s proposed tariffs are) going to cost the average American $2,500 a year or more.” was rated true. Poynter explains:
Most economists expect that Trump’s proposed 10% across-the-board tariff on foreign products will
force consumers to pay more. The specific size of that hit is open to
debate, though Biden offered a figure somewhat higher than current
estimates.
Just days before the debate, the American Action Forum, a center-right think tank, projected additional costs per household of $1,700 to $2,350 annually.
* Biden's claim that "Semiconductor jobs “to build these chips … pay over $100,000. You don’t need a college degree for them.” was rated mostly false. Poynter writes:
The average semiconductor industry salary is around $170,000, figures
from Oxford Economics and Semiconductor Industry Association, a trade
group, show. But this figure includes all jobs within the industry and
doesn’t single out jobs requiring no college degree.
To earn a
salary of $110,000 or higher, employees in the semiconductor industry
need undergraduate or graduate-level degrees, the groups say.
* Biden's claim that “Black unemployment is at the lowest level it’s been in a long, long time” was rated mostly true. Poynter writes:
The record for low Black unemployment rate was set under Biden in April
2023, at 4.8%. It has risen modestly since then to 6.1% in May 2024, but
that’s still lower than it was for much of the first two years under
Trump.
* Trump's claim that “The only jobs (Biden) created are for illegal immigrants and bounce-back jobs, bounce back from the COVID” was rated false. From Poynter:
Since Biden took office in early 2021, the number of foreign-born Americans who are employed has risen by about 5.6 million. But over the same time period, the number of native-born Americans employed has increased by almost 7.4 million. . . .
Employment on Biden’s watch passed its pre-pandemic level by June
2022, about a year-and-a-half into his term. Since then, the U.S.
economy has created an additional 6.2 million jobs.
* Regarding Trump's legal cases, Trump's claim that Biden “indicted me because I was his opponent.” is rated false. "Poynter explains:
The Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into Trump’s business
records began before Biden was president, but Biden was president by
the time Trump was charged in 2023.
After Michael Cohen, who had
been an attorney for Trump, pleaded guilty to federal charges in 2018,
then-Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. opened an investigation
into the payments, Politico reported.
That was before Biden was president. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin
Bragg hired a former Justice Department prosecutor in 2022. But experts
told us that doesn’t prove Biden was involved.
Trump has also
been indicted by a Fulton County, Georgia grand jury and two federal
grand juries. Biden is not responsible for decisions by state or federal
prosecutors to present cases to grand juries.
* Regarding Social Security, Medicare and taxes, Trump's statement that “Social Security, he’s destroying it, because millions of people
are pouring into our country, and they’re putting them onto Social
Security. They’re putting them onto Medicare, Medicaid.” was rated false. From Poynter:
It’s wrong to
say that immigration will destroy Social Security. Social Security’s
fiscal challenges stem from a shortage of workers compared with
beneficiaries.
Immigration is far from a fiscal fix-all for
Social Security’s challenges. But having more immigrants in the United
States would increase the worker-to-beneficiary ratio, potentially for
decades, thus extending the program’s solvency, experts say.
Most immigrants in the U.S. illegally are also ineligible for
Social Security. However, people who entered the U.S. illegally and
were granted humanitarian parole — a temporary permission to stay in the
country — for more than one year, are eligible for Social Security.
* Biden's claim that "Trump “wants to get rid of Social Security, he thinks there’s plenty to cut in Social Security" was rated false. Poynter writes:
Biden went further than previous attacks to say Trump would cut the program entirely. In a March CNBC interview,
Trump said of entitlement programs such as Social Security, “There’s a
lot you can do in terms of entitlements, in terms of cutting.”
However,
Trump quickly walked that statement back. Also, his campaign website
says that not “a single penny” should be cut from Social Security, and
he’s repeated similar lines in campaign rallies.
Before the 2024
campaign, Trump said about a half dozen times that he’s open to major
overhauls of Social Security, including cuts and privatization.
* Regarding taxes, Trump's claim that "“(Biden) wants to raise your taxes by four times. He wants to raise everybody’s taxes by four times” was rated false. From Poynter:
Biden proposed a tax increase of about 7% over the next decade, which
is far lower than the 300% increase that former President Donald Trump
claimed. (Doubling would be a 100% increase and tripling would be a 200%
increase.)
About 83% of the proposed Biden tax increase would be
borne by the top 1% of taxpayers, a level that starts at just under $1
million a year in income.
Taxpayers earning up to $60,400 would
see their yearly taxes decline on average, and taxpayers earning $60,400
to $107,300 would see an annual increase of $20 on average.
* Biden's statement that "“I said I’d never raise the tax on anybody if you’re making less than $400,000. I didn’t” was rated mostly true. Poynter writes:
Biden has said repeatedly that he will not raise taxes on anyone making less than $400,000, a promise he campaigned on in 2020.
He
has not raised any individual income taxes on Americans earning less
than $400,000 a year. It’s always possible that individual taxpayers
could see increases because of changes in their personal circumstances.
Some
corporate tax increases enacted on Biden’s watch have a small projected
pass-through effect on taxpayers. Economists generally allocate a
portion of the tax burden from corporate taxes to shareholders and
partly to consumers, who often pay higher prices as corporations factor
the higher taxes into pricing.
The White House has told
PolitiFact that Biden would let the tax cuts Trump signed in 2017 expire
for wealthier taxpayers, but would not let Americans making less than
$400,000 see any tax increase.
* Trump's claim that "“I gave you the largest tax cut in history” was rated false. Poynter writes:
When it was passed in 2017, Trump’s tax cut was, in
inflation-adjusted dollars, the fourth-largest since 1940. And as a
percentage of gross domestic product, it ranked seventh in history, according to figures published by the Treasury Department.
* Regarding crime, Trump stated: "“What he’s done to the Black population is horrible, including
the fact that for 10 years, he called them super predators … in the
1990s.” Poynter rates this statement false and writes:
In a 1993 Senate floor speech, Biden, then a U.S. senator from
Delaware, spoke about doing something for young people who lacked
supervision, structure or opportunities. He said the country needed to
focus on them, because otherwise, a portion of them would “become the
predators 15 years from now.”
Biden did not single out any racial
or ethnic group. In a 1998 speech at an attorneys general conference,
Biden also used the term “predators.” He didn’t say he was talking about
Black youth.
* On health care, Biden said: “We brought down the price (of) prescription drug(s), which
is a major issue for many people, to $15 for an insulin shot, as opposed
to $400.” Poynter rated this half true and wrote:
Biden touted his efforts to reduce prescription drug costs by
referring to the $35 insulin price cap his administration put in place
as part of the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act. But he flubbed the number
during the debate, saying it was lowered to $15. In his closing
statement, Biden corrected the number to $35.
The price of
insulin for Medicare enrollees starting in 2023 dropped to $35 a month,
not $15. Drug pricing experts told PolitFact when we rated a similar
claim that most Medicare enrollees were likely not paying a monthly
average of $400 before the changes, although because costs vary
depending on coverage phases and dosages, some might have paid that much
in a given month.
* Biden said: "Trump “wants to get rid of the ACA again.” Poynter rated this half true and wrote:
In 2016, Trump campaigned on a promise to repeal and
replace the Affordable Care Act, or ACA. In the White House, Trump
supported a failed effort to do just that. In the years since, he has
repeatedly said he would dismantle the health care law in campaign stops
and social media posts throughout 2023.
In March, however, Trump
walked back this stance, writing on Truth Social that he “isn’t running
to terminate” the ACA but to make it “better” and “less expensive.”
Trump hasn’t said how he would do this.
* Trump said: "“I’m the one that got the insulin down for the seniors.” That was rated mostly false, and Poynter wrote:
When he was president, Trump instituted the Part D Senior Savings Model, a program that capped insulin costs to $35 a month for some older Americans in drug plans that chose to participate.
But because it was voluntary, only 38% of all Medicare drug plans,
including Medicare Advantage plans, participated in 2022, according to
KFF. Trump’s voluntary plan also covered only one form of each dosage
and insulin type.
Biden points to the Inflation Reduction Act’s
mandatory $35 insulin cap as a major achievement. This cap applies to
all Medicare prescription plans. It also expanded the cap to all covered
insulin types and dosages. Although Trump’s model was a start, it did
not have the sweeping reach that Biden’s mandatory cap achieved.
* Regarding a ranking pf presidential historians, Biden said: "Presidential historians 'voted who was the worst president in
American history. 'From best to worst. They said he (Trump) was the worst in
all of American history.” This was rated true, and Poynter wrote:
The 2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey, released in
February, collected responses from 154 presidential historians, which
included current and recent members of the American Political Science
Association. The survey ranked Biden as the 14th best president in U.S.
history, and put Trump last.
The historians were asked to give
every president a score, from 0 to 100. Abraham Lincoln topped the list
with an average score of 95, while Biden scored an average of 62.66.
Trump averaged just under 11 points.
* Finally, what about the argument near the end of the debate about the candidates' golf games? Poynter writes:
Somehow the presidential debate turned into a fight over who’s the
better golfer. Biden said he would have a driving competition with Trump
and claimed he was a 6 handicap while serving as vice president.
Trump scoffed. “He can't hit a ball 50 yards.”
Joe
Biden is currently listed with the United States Golf Association as
holding a 6.7 handicap playing out of Fieldstone Golf Club in Delaware.
Biden hasn’t logged a score in the system since 2018. Scores are
typically self-reported, and a handicap comes from an average of the
lowest 8 of the most recent 20 posted scores.
The lower the
handicap you have, the better golfer you are. Ivanka Trump, for
instance, is a 20.9 handicap and Eric Trump is listed as a 13.6 (without
a round since 2015). Donald Trump is in the system as a member of the
prestigious Winged Foot Golf Club in New York. He lists a handicap of
2.5 but hasn’t posted a score since 2021.
