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We will save that second question for another day? But we will dive right in on the first question and note that the deluge of comments, most of which I deleted or sent to spam, seem to come in several categories -- rants about the defamation lawsuit GOP operative Jessica Medeiros Garrison brought against me, rants about the first nude Bill Pryor photo (a second one is coming), rants about our reporting on "Luv Guv" Bentley and his adviser/mistress Rebekah Caldwell Mason, rants about alleged violations here of the Child Protection Act (related to the Pryor photo), bogus claims of e-mail communications with me, and harassing, profanity-filled tirades.
I ran a few of these comments and tried to engage the sender in fact or reason-based dialogue. It soon became apparent that was a waste of time.
A recent Washington Post article helped explain that. Reporter Margaret Sullivan noted that Trump surrogate Scottie Nell Hughes was introducing a "post-truth world," one where facts do not matter. Based on comments we've seen from apparent Trumpistas, the "post-truth world" already is here. Here are several examples:
I. The Jessica Garrison Lawsuit
(1) Trumpista (sent 12/2/16) -- "They already served you, and YOU are the one responsible for updating your mailing address. . . . They served you at your self-provided last known address, and that was sufficient. (The) judge did not accept (your) lawyer's shuffling excuses, and you lost because you didn't notify the court or check the docket. Frankly, I think you failed to update the court deliberately, in hopes you would delay proceedings.
The Truth -- The first sentence tells you this anonymous commenter (they all are anonymous or appear to use fake names) is clueless. The issue in the Garrison case is not that I wasn't served originally; it's that I never received notice of Garrison's default-judgment application and hearing. Alabama law requires that a plaintiff (Garrison) provide three days' notice -- the burden is on Garrison, not me -- and it's undisputed that Garrison provided zero notice; the docket indicates she did not even try. That's why I did not appear for the hearing, why her default-judgment was entered without opposition, and why it now is void. Notice that the Trumpista relies on emotion and unsupported assertions and zero citations to law. That's a style we've seen over and over.
(2) Trumpista (sent 12/3/16) -- "If the (default) motion didn't reach you it's because you avoided it. And the judge didn't give you any slack. His ruling isn't void or voidable, because his ruling is a discretionary one. It doesn't really matter, of course, whether the judgment is void or voidable, because you are judgment proof. You might have collection attempts made in the future if you ever inherit anything or win a lottery. They've got 20 years to collect.
The Truth -- Alabama law could not be more clear on this. Without proper notice to defendant, an order of default is void, and it is not a matter of judicial discretion. Alabama law says such an order "is void, not merely voidable." (See Abernathy v. Green Tree Servicing.) In fact, the order can be attacked as void at any time; there is no time limit on having the order declared a nullity. (See McConico v. Patterson.) Again, notice the Trumpista makes no citation to law; I suspect that's because the law does not matter to her and her brethren. She only cares about coming out on top in a corrupt world and harassing those who don't share her warped worldview.
II. The First Nude Bill Pryor Photograph (It's not him, it's not him!)
Trumpista (sent 11/25/16) -- "You can see what I've told you. Natural (hair) parts do not change over time by themselves. Pryor would have no reason to force a part change, the mid face is not the same, it's visible, measurable, and philtrums grow longer, not shorter with age. Pryor's ears are set higher. He has deviations in his nasal cartilage not visible in the pic of the adolescent nude. The nasal bridge and eye socket are different. You are a liar if you pretend measurable differences are not visible.
"You don't have anyone who investigated the photo on tape saying there was a finding that the picture was of him. You can't, because there was no such finding, and the picture is of someone else."
The Truth -- This person was asked to give her name, contact information, and any expertise upon which the claims are made. Of course, that information was not forthcoming. I have multiple law-enforcement officials and legal insiders -- some of them on tape -- stating that they were involved in an investigation of the Pryor photos when they first surfaced, they traced the photos to Monroe, Louisiana, (where Pryor went to college), and it is, in fact, the Bill Pryor who now is a federal judge. The commenter, by the way, has no answer for the fact that both the young and older Pryor have strabismus (crossed eyes) and attached ear lobes, relatively rare conditions.
III. "Luv Guv" Bentley and his main squeeze, Rebekah Caldwell Mason
Trumpista (sent 11/30/16) -- "My husband and I pay our taxes, Mr. Shuler, allowing people like you to live off social services. Oh, don't think we don't know all about your current circumstances. Confidential my ass. You sick fuck.
"I don't usually swear, but when someone is a sick fuck -- like Roger Shuler -- I call them a sick fuck. Seriously, I've never been so sympathetic toward redneck police before reading about what has happened to Shuler.
:Shuler needs an ethics checker. I never claimed to be intelligent, but I'm not an old pervy prick like you, Shuler."
The Truth -- Now, that was enlightening, wasn't it? That was attached to a post about Bentley and Mason, although I don't know why. After all, Bentley supported John Kasich, not Trump. Anyway, it's nice to know that a person who uses the term "sick fuck" over and over doesn't normally swear. Must be one of Trump's supporters from the religious right.
IV. The nude Pryor photo is of an under-aged teen, pointing to a violation of the Child Protection Act
Trumpista (sent 11/28/16) -- "We are legally and morally obligated to report content online that we reasonably believe does not comply with the Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act. Period, full stop. You cannot prove that the nude image you published is of a person 18 years of age or older. This is not in dispute at all.
"We will keep reporting your site, FOREVER, to make sure that your abusive exploitation of children and adults is flagged by Google, Bing, and everyone else. I think you can expect us to never give up.
"You produce fake news that abuses women and children."
The Truth -- This came from a repeat commenter who calls herself "Sarah." I have multiple law-enforcement and legal figures on tape saying the photo was taken while THE Bill Pryor was a student at Northeast Louisiana University (now Louisiana Monroe) and, like most college students, he was 18 or over. The Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act " places stringent record-keeping requirements on the producers of actual, sexually explicit materials. The guidelines for enforcing these laws . . . require producers of sexually explicit material to obtain proof of age for every model they shoot, and retain those records." Is Legal Schnauzer a "producer of sexually explicit material," one who "shoots models"? Not exactly. I pointed this out to "Sarah," but she wasn't interested in hearing it because it is . . . the truth.
V. I'm telling you that we communicated via e-mail, and you said ugly things to me!
Trumpista (sent 11/28/16) -- "I've engaged Mr. Shuler twice now through email about important issues, and each time he has ended up demanding to know "who I am working for" and my home address. Well, he has my real name (twice now!) but not my address, because we all know what he will do with that information: try and connect me with his other "enemies" in his vast, impossible conspiracy, and then sexually smear me (I'm a woman).
The Truth -- This was another missive from "Sarah." I told her I had no memory of communicating with someone who went only by the first name of Sarah, and that I had checked my records and found no such communications. I asked "Sarah" to send me copies of such e-mails and -- surprise, surprise -- I'm still waiting for them.
VI. Cursing and harassing up a storm
Trumpista (sent 11/30/16) -- "I don't usually swear, but when someone is a sick fuck -- like Roger Shuler -- I call them a sick fuck."
The Truth -- I don't have anything to add. Just had to repeat that classic.
Trumpista (sent 11/29/16) -- "Coward. You endanger children. Coward. You whore out your wife. Coward. You lie. You lie. Coward. You hate children."
The Truth -- Something tells me this person thinks I'm a coward. And "you whore out your wife"? Where on earth did that come from? As you can see, this person is more than a little unhinged, and I've received several dozen similar comments.
So, the "post-truth" world is coming? My mailbox says it's already here.
36 comments:
Good God, these people are crackers!
Just a guess, but I'd say you've touched a nerve with somebody. Again, just a guess.
Hey, Mr. Schnauzer, I hear you are a coward. Just wanted to make sure you knew.
Roger S, the judge in the first example wrote his order with your objection in mind.
He disposed of your arguments, he rejected them. If you preserved an appeal from that decision, the time to have it revisited is over.
You lost. I know your position on the "notice" - but the judge didn't ignore your arguments, he addressed them, and rejected them, and did so based on his understanding of the law.
You have lost the opportunity to toss out that decision, even if it was wrong. I don't think it was wrong, because you had more than thirty days, as the judge notes, before the judgement was entered.
I know you were in a bad state and your life was in flux. The law on the subject actually is weighted towards a verdict on merits and against default. However, the judge ruled against you with an order that addresses every point you made.
Fwiw, I do not personally support Donald Trump.
@12:47 --
You are proving my part. You truly are living in a "post-truth world," whether you support Donald Trump or not. I'll offer you this help, but I can't help those who don't want to learn:
Go to item I(2) in the post and click on the links to "Abernathy" and "McConico" cases. Read said cases. They spell out the law, and they show that you are wrong. They also show that Garrison's judgment is void (not voidable, not a matter of discretion) and can be attacked as such at any time.
Jessica Garrison has $3.5 million of nothing, zilch. That seems to bother you, but it's the law, whether you like it or not. I suspect you will keep your blinders on, and I would suggest you might as well support Trump. Who did you support, by the way, the great and almighty Jeb!?
BTW, Blankenship's order means nothing on these issues. And he did not address all points. He ignored the law of Abernathy and McConico, which is controlling. But he's a corrupt judge, just like most all judges in Jeffco Courthouse, including those who signed off on bogus arrest of Dr. Mark Hayden.
Again, if you want to ignore the facts, the law, and the truth, I can't help you. No one can help you, and you would be better off reading some other blog.
@12:47 -- Why don't you make any citations to law to support your positions? You say "I don't think it was wrong," but I don't care what you "think" (or "don't think). I read LS every day because the author supports his work with citations to fact and law. But I get disgusted with lazy-ass commenters like you who think we care what you "think."
My guess is you are Jessica Garrison or one of her "buds." Your comment is the equivalent of cotton candy. It's made of nothing, no thought, no research.
LS --
Thanks for the blog. I enjoy your comment section and notice that you frequently provide your phone number and email address so that readers can discuss certain issues with you directly. You seem to do this especially with those who claim to disagree with you. Have any of these commenters taken you up on the proposal to contact you directly?
Not a one, @1:21. Still waiting for the first one to contact me. My guess is that it will never happen.
The potty mouth thinks they are a modern day Shakespeare with their prose. Hopefully they do not kiss anyone with that crude, ignorant, and foul mouth.
I think what bothers me and some other people who read your blog is that you are trying to prosecute issues that are now legally resolved. It's a bit like your fellow Southerns who can't stop talking about how they "won" or "should have won" the Civil War. Or some people who say that Clinton "received more popular votes". It just doesn't matter at this point. You lost, Clinton lost, and the Confederate States of America doesn't exist anymore.
What I tell people like you everyday is, Move the hell on. I work with abuse survivors, some of whom have taken on the mantle of victim. Rather than get a handle on what actually happened to them, they cry and whine about being "triggered". I always say, Anger is sadness in action. Get angry, get active, and deal with the real world.
I didn't vote for Trump, but he's my president now. We need to get behind him and give him a chance. He's slept with whores (you know the legal angle on that), he's cheated on his wife, he's a terrible person in many ways. But maybe that's what we need right now, someone who can fucking fight and get stuff straightened out for once. We've had Eight Years of Rainbow People that sadly turned everything into shit. I don't have a problem with Muslims at all, but if even 1 out of a million is a terrorist, why risk it? I want to be able to sleep at night.
As far as your own ethnic heritage, stop being ashamed of it. I'm mocha colored. After January 20 you won't have to worry about going outside and facing the Rainbow. We'll be standing beside you, even if you can't see us. A lot of jobs are going to be opened up and created. Good paying American jobs, for Americans only.
Come home. Grab a drink and let's toast the Asshole in Chief. He's OUR asshole!
LS has 'asked' me to contact him to 'discuss' my views many times. Why haven't I done it? Because these calls will get taped (without my permission) and then published on Youtube. I don't want my personal info smeared over the web like soft shit peanut butter. Just google "Chase Swatek" to see all the BS Roger can generate with small facts.
Someone said "fuck Roger" and I couldn't agree more. He's should be medicated. He turns family tragedy and into a burning enema that you shit out causing pain.
Like most people in my state I voted for Trump. No regrets so far, not a one. We're going to see a revolution soon and people like you Roger will have to work for once. Lazy asshole.
Roger Shuler is such a coward, he won't meet me and talk to me. He makes the abuse of women and children easier. He steals from his employers. Lock 'em up!
You're an idiot about the photo. You should be arrested for publishing child porn. You're a pervy asshole. Stay away from our CHILDREN you fucker!
My husband and I pay our taxes, Mr. Shuler, allowing people like you to live off social services every day. Oh, don't think we don't know all about your current sad circumstances. Confidential my ass :-) Merry Xmas Roger you sick fuck.
I've engaged Mr. Shuler twice now through email about important issues, and each time he has ended up demanding to know "who I am working for" and my home address. Well, he has my real name (twice now!) but not my address, because we all know what he will do with that information: try and connect me with his other "enemies" in his vast, impossible conspiracy, and then sexually smear me (I'm a woman).
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We will keep reporting your site, FOREVER, to make sure that your abusive exploitation of children and adults is flagged by Google, Bing, and everyone else. I think you can expect us to never give up.
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You produce fake news that abuses women and children
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I wish that's where my story ended. In a way, it is—but another chapter just opened. I ran into my meeting literally shouting, "I won! I won!" I was elated—not about the money, but about the fact that I'd seen justice done. When Shuler was served with the papers from my attorney, he was already in jail for another defamation case. I wish that's where my story ended. In a way, it is—but another chapter just opened. I ran into my meeting literally shouting, "I won! I won!" eting literally shouting, "I won! I won!" I was elated—not about the money, but about the fact that I'd seen justice done. When Shuler was served with the papers from my attorney, he was already in jail for another defamation case. I wish that's where my story ended. In a way, it is—but another chapter just opened. I ran into my meeting literally shouting, "I won! I won!" I was elated—not about the money, but about the fact that I'd seen justice done. When Shuler was served with the papers from my attorney, he was already in jail for another defamation case.
Fuck you, Roger. Fuck you!
Why give these Trumpholes a forum? You must really love attention./
Roger I support you 100%
but I hope you get hit my a bus, you creep.
I just hit publish on about 18-20 new comments that came in from Trump types. I normally send this kind of rubbish to spam, but since they are proving my point about a "post-truth world," I thought readers might want to see the kind of responses you get from publishing accurate information about Trump, his nominees, etc. I will check to see if any of them are worth a response from me, and if so, will publish below. For now, I think you can see that we are not only heading into a "post-truth world," it's also "post-class," "post taste," "post intelligence," etc.
Mitch Demarte --
Interesting comment, and I agree with much of what you've written. Not sure what you mean by the charge that I'm prosecuting issues that have been legally resolved. (A) I'm a journalist, not a prosecutor. Journalists write about events of the past all the time. A new Civil War or Abraham Lincoln book probably comes out every week. The war has been over, and Lincoln has been dead, for a long time. But the subjects still matter; (B) A lot of my personal legal issues have not been resolved, not even close, including the Garrison case; (C) The central question at this blog is not "Has the issue been resolved?" but "was it resolved correctly under the law?" For example, I started writing about the Sherry Rollins and Linda Upton divorce cases after both had more or less been resolved. But they had not been resolved correctly, under the law -- not even close. The reason I started this blog is to look critically at the actions of judges, lawyers, and others tied to our "justice" system because I had seen evidence of widespread corruption. If you want to read about cases where journalists take judicial orders without the slightest skepticism . . . well, you are at the wrong place; (D) You appear to be among the many Americans who think a case is resolved forever once a certain judicial order is entered. That's not necessarily so. The law allows for cases to be reopened under certain conditions. I don't have time or space to go into all of that now. But what you think has been legally resolved might be subject to further legal action.
@3:37 --
Do you have a point? If so, would you care to tell us what it is?
Question for @12:47-You say the law is weighted in favor of a judgment on the merits and not on a default judgment. That actually is an accurate statement of the law, the only accurate statement you make.
If that's the law, and you and I both know it is, why did Judge Blankenship not follow it? You say Blankenship rejected Mr. Schnauzer's points, based on the judge's "understanding" of the law. But that's not his job; his job is to apply the law, as it's written. If you and I can understand it, then any judge should be able to understand it. You are OK with "law by whim"?
It seems strange to me that you acknowledge the judge was wrong, but you seem OK with that -- almost blase about it. "You lost," you tell Mr. Schnauzer. Are you sub-human? In so many words, you admit that Mr. Schnauzer got hosed, but that doesn't seem to bother you in the least. How would you feel if you were in his shoes -- and trust me, you might be in his shoes someday. Your lack of empathy, not to mention your "oh, well" approach to the law, suggests you might be on the edge of sociopathy.
I say you need a serious check on your moral compass, assuming you have one. Otherwise, you reveal yourself to be a wretched human being.
Hey, Schnauzer -- did a lot of these comments come while some elementary school was out for recess? I've never seen so much juvenile stuff, at one place, in my life. These people would have to improve to be retarded.
Is the Judge in this article, Graffeo, the same Judge who is tight with G. Ivey and B Ragsdale? If so, he might be sketchy.
I'm not sure about the judge's ties to Ivey and Ragsdale (anybody know?), but I'm pretty sure Graffeo is sketchy regardless.
if it weren't so weird it would be funny, those people who repeatedly write profanities and then the other one who wants your blog flagged because you had porn on your website. My goodness these people do come from both ends of the spectrum A list of profanities really is very immature. most children get over that by 14. as to the person who thinks naked pictures of some one who most likely was at least 18 at the time and self published needs to have a look at some real porn and get over themselves. Didn't see them get all excited about the list of profanities. The A. person stated you abused women and children. didn't give any e.g.s but if they are so concerned about the abuse of women and children I would ask them, how many hours do you put in at the local homeless shelter for women and children? How much do you donate to women and children's transition houses?
Some of us do go off topic. A major blogger here in Vancouver, B.C. simply doesn't print the comments if they go too off topic. I think its fair. its the bloggers blog and we are the guest. We might try to remember that and use our manners.
If this is an American habit, sending this type of language to bloggers you disagree with, people really need to understand Roger has the right to publish his opinions. its called freedom of the speech and the press. its in the Constitution.
Now as to continuing to write about "cases which are over". People have the right to protest how they were dealt with by the law. There are all sorts of cases in the U.S.A. where people have been unfairly treated by the courts up to and including execution of innocent people. So its best to have people call out those who they feel have offended their rights.
post truth or the Gobells method of communication? What is being passed off as truth in many articles are simply opinions. Opinions are frequently not based in/on fact.
Some believe if they repeat a lie often and long enough people will accept it as the truth. Even though we now have post truth, we also have fact checkers. Then of course there will be those who argue the fact checkers are simply putting forward untruths or facts not in evidence.
Trump said a lot of things when he was running for election. During that time, I suspected not much of it would materialize. i.e. he was going to drain the swamp. Not so much, in my opinion. Looks like they stocked the swamp with a whole lot of alligators and such. The meat will be the people, businesses, and money of the U.S.A.
We have seen Trump put forward the names for his new cabinet. Not too many look like they will be acting in the interests of the average American. You can't cut taxes and provide services to Americans and yes that includes paying for the military and the Veterans. When you cut taxes you de fund the government. Without a steady flow of money into the government coffers you either go broke, borrow by issuing bonds, or cut services.
Trump's assertion that his suggested secretary of state has done massive, wonderful deals doesn't make him a good Secretary of State. For that you need to know something about how government works. The man has no experience in government or the military. Doing oil deals with Putin and his thugs isn't the experience people need to run an effective government. What do the people who voted for Trump think this guy can do for them. Making America great again doesn't spring to my mind. Having a good time with Putin does. Then of course there is the whole thing of making American great again. I'm Canadian and I always thought American was great. so if its already great, how can you make it great again?
Only time will tell. My thought on the whole thing is: the average American will not do well with the new administration. There will be conflicts of interest and money will be acquired by the Trump organization which they might otherwise not have acquired. Other civilized countries expect their leaders to put their assets in a blind trust. Trump's failure to do so say a lot about him. Good Luck America.
"suggests you might be on the edge of sociopathy"
You can't diagnose any sort of mental illness based on random, untranced blog comments! It's impossible and upside-down.
Roger's behavior is a lot easier to understand, because we have years now of his crackpot bullshit. He should be locked up with the other pervs ASAP. He's a public menace.
I expect Trump will be a very successful president. We need a change of direction, and Trump sure is it!
No more racial shame, thank Jesus!
We are criticized and attacked everyday by the "Rainbow Coalition". Enough is enough.
We built this country. We were never perfect, but you people seem to want to take all the wealth we built, all the things we did, and just take and take and take and not produce anything. Well we learned a lot from your identity politics. We learned to be honest and PROUD of who we are.
Time for all you CHILDREN to grow up. We just took our country back!
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