Jack Bogle |
Vanguard Group, the nation's largest mutual-fund company, received unwanted attention after the Sandy Hook massacre in December when reports showed that it was a major financial supporter of gun manufacturers. Based in the Philadelphia suburb of Malvern, Pennsylvania, Vanguard is the No. 1 holder of Smith & Wesson stock and a top-five investor in Sturm Ruger.
John C. "Jack" Bogle, founder of Vanguard Group, said in a radio interview just days after the mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, that the investments simply were part of the firm's strategy to "hold the market" via index funds. (See video at the end of this post.)
Bogle's message, in so many words, was that Vanguard can't be held to any standards of ethical investing because gun manufacturers are in the market, and his firm is committed to "holding the market." If gun makers' products wind up being used to slaughter school children . . . well, Vanguard really can't do much about that, Bogle seemed to be saying.
One wonders, then, how Bogle explains Vanguard's holdings in pornography. Is it strategically imperative to "hold that market"? The answer must be yes because public records show that Vanguard is a prominent holder in at least three companies that deal directly in porn. Vanguard's holdings in companies with indirect ties to porn--cable broadcasters, hotel chains, Internet providers, etc.--clearly are vast.
Vanguard's questionable ethics is not limited to the world of weapons and porn. It is the No. 1 investor in Campus Crest Communities, a developer of student housing near college campuses around the country. Ted Rollins, the company's CEO, has a criminal record that includes a conviction for assault on his 16-year-old stepson in Franklin County, North Carolina. Rollins also was the subject of a social-services investigation, based on a citizen complaint, for possible child sexual abuse involving the same stepson.
The assault met the definition for child abuse under North Carolina law, even though Rollins was prosecuted only for a "simple assault." Does it bother Vanguard Group that it supports a CEO with a documented history as a child abuser? The answer apparently is no.
Part of the reason might be that Vanguard has a long history of supporting various Rollins-family enterprises. It is a major holder in Atlanta-based Rollins Inc., the umbrella company for Orkin Pest Control. It also is a prime investor in RPC Inc., a Rollins company that offers a number of services related to oil exploration and drilling.
Vanguard manages more than $2 trillion in assets, so its fingers are in many financial pies. But the firm clearly has solid interests in what we might call "pistols, petroleum, poisons, and porn."
That last one might come as a bit of a surprise to big-money investors who consider themselves "conservative." But it's right there in the public record.
Most porn companies are private operations, but Vanguard has investments with at least three that are publicly traded:
* Private Media (PRVT)--Based in Spain, Private Media is a worldwide distributor of pornographic films. According to records at rocketfinancial.com Vanguard is the company's No. 5 investor.
* FriendFinder Networks (FFN)--Based in Boca Raton, Florida, FriendFinder Networks is a holding company for numerous Internet firms that deal in adult content. Penthouse Media Group in 2007 bought Various Inc., the parent company of FriendFinder, and renamed itself FriendFinder Networks. Vanguard Group is the No. 6 holder of FFN stock.
* LodgeNet Interactive (LNET)--Based in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, LodgeNet is a major provider of pornographic films for the hotel industry. The company has been struggling financially, but Vanguard holds almost 629,000 shares.
Why does Vanguard, with its huge array of assets, need to be involved in porn? Perhaps the answer can be found in Jack Bogle's statements, made just days after the Sandy Hook shootings, about his company's involvement with gun manufacturers:
We are the largest holder (in Smith & Wesson), and we probably own about 5 percent of every corporation in America. The reason we do is that our strategy is one of hold the market. Smith & Wesson is in the market, so we will be holding that.
Should we speak up? The answer is yes. Should we get out of the stock? I think that is pretty debatable because if your whole strategy is to hold the whole market, you end up making a whole lot of judgments that are never quite as clear as one might hope.
It's something we ought to be thinking about, but we couldn’t go to Smith & Wesson management and say, "Get out of the gun business." That’s their business. . . . If we got out of that stock, the company wouldn’t even know it; somebody else would own it. You don’t have the kind of clout you would think that a 5 percent or so owner would have.
Does this attitude explain Vanguard's cozy relationship with Ted Rollins, even though he has a record as a child abuser? It probably does. Does it explain Vanguard's connections to porn? Apparently so.
Should Americans casually accept such an explanation from a company that carries massive financial clout? Perhaps it's time we all started asking ourselves that question.
Here is an interview with Bogle on the Radio Times program at radio station WHYY in Philadelphia, from December 2012, just days after the Sandy Hook shootings:
Isn't FriendFinder Networks (FFN) based in the same city where the "Sex Party-Throwing Hedge Fund Manager" lives?
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The President of Iceland said the most profound statement:
ReplyDelete"... Olafur Ragnar Grimsson Iceland president ~'Let banks go bankrupt' ....
Now this is because of THE SO CALLED FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM, which is R.I.C.O. globally and operates the U.S. of A.
This is especially true of an umbrella for VANGUARD ET AL.
"... Grimsson gave a famous reply to the financial MSM reporter, stating that Iceland’s recovery was due to the following primary reason:
.. We were wise enough not to follow the traditional prevailing orthodoxies of the Western financial world in the last 30 years. We introduced currency controls, we let the banks fail, we provided support for the poor, and we didn’t introduce austerity measures like you’re seeing here in Europe. …“
.. When asked whether Iceland’s policy of letting the banks fail would have worked in the rest of Europe, Grimsson replied:
.. Why are the banks considered to be the holy churches of the modern economy? Why are private banks not like airlines and tele-communication companies and allowed to go bankrupt if they have been run in an irresponsible way? The theory that you have to bail-out banks is a theory that you allow bankers enjoy for their own profit their success, and then let ordinary people bear their failure through taxes and austerity....
.. People in enlightened democracies are not going to accept that in the long run....
THERE IS THE ANSWER TO AMY BISHOP AND WHY VANGUARD CONTROLS THE PORTFOLIOS OF COURTS, LAWYERS, DOCTORS ET AL.
The numbers do not lie and liars don't do real numbers.
Vanguard is very RICH and thus, so are those that invest in retiring via Vanguard.
We're NOT, in other words, "... People in enlightened democracies ...."
The criminal R.I.C.O., is clearly a CIVIL abomination of "reality."
Why the people in America have not revolted? DRUG ADDICT NATION.
People in the U.S. for a majority are addicted to the consumerism that has literally criminally destroyed our "life realities," and the civilized [Vanguard] do not care about an enlightened democracy.
We can invest in far greater ideas than what Vanguard and any of the so called "American Financial Corporations," offer.
Need to kick some very bad habits of drugs, and the robotic consuming whatever can be purchased via brain dead actions.
More Vikings are needed here. The Vikings went to Iceland after kicking the same "Pirates" out of the Great Britain area, more than three times and now once again in the modern time.
Less lawyer Vanguards and more Viking Proletariat(s).
Good catch, Jeff. Yes, Marc Leder is based in Boca Raton.
ReplyDeleteHmmm . . . this post suddenly makes Vanguard Group seem more interesting than they were before.
ReplyDeleteI found this list of the 10 most visited porn sites. Somebody has got to be making serious cash off these sites:
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Boca Raton ~ "Rat's Mouth," the common term, but not really what the name was in the beginning as well defined by the Indians native to that land and then of course the Spaniards talking language best they could.
ReplyDeleteBeautiful there and the arts were flourishing during the boom, before the 9-1-1 change the world order into "creative destruction" [again].
Romney looks like a Big Pharma Zombie in every photo of him. The WHITES of his eyes are what happens to crazy people ~ a spinning white saucer like Roger Rabbit insane look.
Bogle is a Bull Dog face and with all his money he could have health diagnosed by the leading true medical geniuses in the world.
His eyes are sunk in and underneath the bags are what happens to kidneys, failure of the organs AND no doubt lots of the drugs to make believe he is alive.
Big Pharma has manufactured Zombies and these criminally insane are running the Big Ship Lollypop U.S. of A.
In a few words, sinking ships are already past the loose lips.
Look carefully at Bogle ET AL [Romney, Rove] and the scary ugly mouths match the vacant "windows of the soul," eyes dark-staring-vile-evil.
Gotta hold that porn market!
ReplyDeleteI would really love to hear more from Jack Bogle about "ethical investing."
ReplyDeleteSub human filth.
ReplyDeleteThe products in America have been an intentional lowest common denominator for the society to be as third world as can be.
Thailand allows the products to be sold and there are almost no restraints in the drugs, or the BLUE MOVIES [porn beyond any ever seen in the U.S. of A.].
Tim Geithner went to the International School in Bangkok, ?1970s or thereabouts.
Why would the "leaders" of the U.S. of A. choose to have people that are edified in behavior?
Which pays the big bucks?
Druggies in Thailand, sit and eat "Beetle Nut," teeth black, orange foam, to work longer hours.
Like cocaine only cheaper.
Here in the PORN SHOPS, that drug in Thailand is sold as a "sexual enhancement."
Hmmmmm, Tim Geithner was not stupid in taking the helm from Hank Paulson who is also a sub human zionist scum bag.
THE FED CONTROLS VANGUARD.
The "Federal Reserve System," [FED] AND its ilk of umbrellas, [VANGUARD] are GOD-SATAN of America. ISRAEL is the capitol state for the state of U.S. and has been since 1948, and creeping more deadly every second into lives by the bio-metric gulag called "social credit."
Don Siegelman is a victim of this sub human filthy dis-ease.
I'm surprised to learn that some porn companies are publicly traded. Guess it's going mainstream.
ReplyDeleteAccording to this LA Times article, the "old fashioned" porn industry is having a hard time. Tough competition from the Web:
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I'd be more interested to know if this involved child porn. All signs point to that possibility!
ReplyDeleteDid you know Chatsworth, CA is the hub of the U.S. porn industry. Think it's north of LA, in San Fernando Valley. 60 Minutes did a piece on it a few years ago. Didn't mention Vanguard . . .
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What happens when a porn investor has a good day on the market? Does he get an erection? Have an orgasm?
ReplyDeleteThese questions keep me awake at night.
Anon at 10:08--
ReplyDeleteYou ask a good question about child porn. I assume that must be really, really underground in terms of those who support it financially. But who knows? Apparently, there is a market for it.
I'm more concerned about Vanguard's holdings in petroleum than I am with those in porn. I can live with a little porn. Hard to live, though, with global warming--or with fracking that fouls our water supply.
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ReplyDeleteYou made me LOL.
Thank you.
Admit it, Schnauzer, you're just trying to boost traffic to your blog by writing about porn. Oldest trick in the book.
ReplyDeleteYou caught me!
ReplyDeleteMaybe the trick is to just put the word "porn" in any headline. Like this:
"Ted Rollins cheats his ex wife in divorce court--and he likes porn, too"
or
"Alabama judges are corrupt because they watch too much porn."
I see a trend forming.
Which brings up the point of what is and isn't considered a crime in the state of Alabama with its tested and upheld obscenity laws.
ReplyDeleteRegarding the looks of Bogle, Cheney, Ted Rollins and these other "blood sucking ghosts" of capitalism- I wonder if Ted Rollins and his apartment company allow guns at "student apartments" which are referred to in their ads as "fully loaded living". I suppose these Vanguard backed companies could actually work together to compliment each other and raise the stock prices in these companies. For instance, make sure that every student, or non student who lives in Campus Crest are allowed to have guns and encouraged to have them because of the high crime rate in these apartments at 42 college campus locations? This could help Smith Wesson, Ruger sell more guns to students which would then make more criminals to fill the prisons which are also Vanguard Group companies. Just wondering.
ReplyDeleteApplause seems to be in order today Legal Schnauzer. You have given us all an education regarding how Dick Cheney, Jack Bogle are keeping our world supplied with guns for wars, guns for hunting, and guns for shooting students at schools, college students and even 5 year old kindergarten students. Guns are apparently big business. I wonder if the money spent on guns in America alone would feed the entire world' s hungry?
ReplyDeleteVanguard Group, NRA, Smith Wesson, Ruger should all be held accountable for their part in these murders. I would bet Dick Cheney knew to invest in Vanguard and their gun companies as he knew he and George W. Bush were getting ready to make so many wars which would require these guns. It would be interesting to find out if Smith Wesson and these gun companies are selling guns to foreign countries wouldn't it?
I wonder if these universities, colleges where Campus Crest has built their apartments for "students" are aware that this company is changing the safety of students at universities ? Are they aware that campus police can not come near these complexes, and the local police are resentful of the increased 911 calls and crime in their areas. I read that the local police were on site at one particular apartment complex more than 300 times in one year. Would this also see that more young students are being jailed instead of exspelled from the colleges?
ReplyDeleteHow is it possible for the Alabama Bar prosecute a compliant against an Alabama attorney for what may have happened in a Georgia court which is under the jusrisdiction of the Georgia Bar.
ReplyDeleteWhy do we not know the cause of death in this case?
Both good questions, David. I know the family recently pushed for a determination on cause of death and was stonewalled. Not sure how the Alabama State Bar would have jurisdiction over events that took place in Georgia, where Ms. Clark had been admitted pro hac vice.
ReplyDeleteP.S.--David, I think you probably commented on the wrong post. I will move it to the one on Jennifer Page Clark.
Say what you want about Vanguard's investment strategy, but don't blame Jack Bogle. He is a fine gentleman and no longer CEO.
ReplyDeleteJack is a little more down to earth and outspoken for Vanguard. He is loved by all employees, past present and future.
Say what you want about Vanguard's investment strategy, but don't blame Jack Bogle. He is a fine gentleman and no longer CEO.
ReplyDeleteJack is a little more down to earth and outspoken for Vanguard. He is loved by all employees, past present and future.