tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3669412675139526125.post8733352979360391451..comments2024-03-12T21:13:06.850-05:00Comments on Legal Schnauzer: Justice Department Can't Handle the Truth About Siegelman Judgelegalschnauzerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09619089628125964154noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3669412675139526125.post-71870544324344320922009-12-23T12:46:51.590-06:002009-12-23T12:46:51.590-06:00You seem to be saying that you agree that the tria...You seem to be saying that you agree that the trial judge acted corruptly and did not apply the correct law in the case--but you are perfectly OK with that.<br /><br />Amazing.legalschnauzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09619089628125964154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3669412675139526125.post-76842928567362123342009-12-23T12:29:08.725-06:002009-12-23T12:29:08.725-06:00"You apparently haven't spent much time r..."You apparently haven't spent much time reading this blog or thinking about the law in this country."<br /><br />Actually, I read your blog daily for the laugh it provides me.<br /><br />"In the case of you and me, we are free to "believe" whatever we want. But a jury is supposed to be guided by a trial judge who applies the actual law--and it is supposed to be overseen by an appellate court that makes sure the facts and the law were applied correctly. Neither of those happened in the Siegelman case. Any reasonably objective person who studies the case will see that. It's not a matter of what anyone believes."<br /><br />I am a reasonable, objective person and I believe that. But even if I didn't, the process has worked in this case. The jury convicted. The appeals courts have heard and agreed. The only real contention here are those people like you who refuse to accept it.<br /><br />"You might not like Don Siegelman and Richard Scrushy--and that's A-OK by me. But they did not commit the crimes with which they were charged. That's fact, not belief."<br /><br />Actually I know both men and like them both as people. But a jury and the appeals court apparently believe they are guilty of these crimes. That, is the "fact." Your opionion is "belief."<br /><br />"All Americans should be alarmed by what happened in this case. If our system can be perverted in this way to abuse Siegelman and Scrushy, it can be used to abuse you or me or someone we care about."<br /><br />Again, you see at as perverted. I see it as working as it was designed to work.<br /><br />"You know what they say about 'an injustice anywhere.' It's a threat to justice everywhere. The next time, you or someone you care about might be the victim. Don't think it can't happen."<br /><br />The real injustice would be a Democratic president and his attorney general overstepping their bounds in a case where the jury system and the appeals process have worked exactly how it was supposed to. Allowing a few left-wing conspiracy wackos who refuse to accept the truth ("You can't handle the truth!") until an actual inustice is done to correct the justice would be far worse. Oh, and as long as I don't bribe an elected official, I doubt it will happen to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3669412675139526125.post-79815885021468283102009-12-22T18:50:37.461-06:002009-12-22T18:50:37.461-06:00You ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait until you...You ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait until you see the precedents set by the New York "trial" of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.<br /> Torture, no habeus corpus and that's just the start of it. Oh boy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3669412675139526125.post-39966458898945712802009-12-22T10:41:35.581-06:002009-12-22T10:41:35.581-06:00Holder sitting on more than just this case.
Take t...Holder sitting on more than just this case.<br />Take the time to listen to the calls<br /><br />http://privateattorneygeneral.ning.com/page/calls-1<br /><br />Review the web site.<br /><br />We may Laugh but it's not Funny<br />In reading this article" <br /><br />We Laugh at Our Peril: Fox News as an Information Operation " <br /><br />http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/11/813329/-We-Laugh-at-Our-Pe.<br /><br />It occurred to me there's a much larger issue. <br /><br />The main stream TV media boosting on the minute news as its happening there’s a whole lot not to getting reported. <br /><br />Our TV's may be getting clearer pictures and sharper sound but the information we receive is being increasingly edited picture of unclear information & unconfirmed sources.<br /><br />http://privateattorneygeneral.ning.com/profiles/blogs/we-may-laugh-but-its-not-funny8th Degreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3669412675139526125.post-38879332483292533662009-12-22T08:42:17.304-06:002009-12-22T08:42:17.304-06:00I've begun my investigation with the City Comm...I've begun my investigation with the City Commissioners in the City of Portland, State of Oregon.<br /><br />Here's why:<br /><br />Conflicts of interest.<br /><br />Obama is hiding this in America.<br /><br />First, the stock portfolios are filled with the Rove era of 100% against the Constitution of the US.<br /><br />Gosh be shocked that the US Constitution is just a GD piece of paper!<br /><br />GEORGE W. BUSH<br /><br />-- this means from the beginning of this family being in charge as the militant-police state it now is --<br /><br />are a cockroach leadership and now the insects are running for their lives BUT these nasty, filthy, hideous bugs are continuing to be all over and have done terrible damage to all the good.<br /><br />The FEDERAL JUDGES know their retirement depends upon the militant-police America designed by BUSH-OBAMA and this is such a STALIN-esq type of dictatorship (think Gulags) that they are ashamed and would rather destroy the Siegelman and Minor and others before exposing the greatest crime of the US.<br /><br />We are a GITMO, a GAZA, etc. Just watch OBAMA each time he, THE CONSTITUTIONAL HARVARD ATTORNEY!!!! LOL signs another death warrant to "enemy combatants."<br /><br />We have been "sold down the river" by our "Black President."<br /><br />Last week Mr. O gave every judge in America the right to put us all away for life without one right to fight this, as enemies of the state.<br /><br />Obama and Holder have no intention of being other than what they have been paid to be: dictators of the new gulag, USofA.<br /><br />BiloxiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3669412675139526125.post-79564289322489421712009-12-21T18:28:45.599-06:002009-12-21T18:28:45.599-06:00Anon No. 2:
You apparently haven't spent much...Anon No. 2:<br /><br />You apparently haven't spent much time reading this blog or thinking about the law in this country.<br /><br />You aren't convicted of a crime based on what someone "believes," whether it be you, me, or a jury. <br /><br />In the case of you and me, we are free to "believe" whatever we want. But a jury is supposed to be guided by a trial judge who applies the actual law--and it is supposed to be overseen by an appellate court that makes sure the facts and the law were applied correctly.<br /><br />Neither of those happened in the Siegelman case. Any reasonably objective person who studies the case will see that. It's not a matter of what anyone believes.<br /><br />You might not like Don Siegelman and Richard Scrushy--and that's A-OK by me. But they did not commit the crimes with which they were charged. That's fact, not belief.<br /><br />All Americans should be alarmed by what happened in this case. If our system can be perverted in this way to abuse Siegelman and Scrushy, it can be used to abuse you or me or someone we care about.<br /><br />You know what they say about "an injustice anywhere." It's a threat to justice everywhere. The next time, you or someone you care about might be the victim. Don't think it can't happen.legalschnauzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09619089628125964154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3669412675139526125.post-78293274172722686202009-12-21T18:16:20.815-06:002009-12-21T18:16:20.815-06:00Or maybe -- and I'm just throwing this out the...Or maybe -- and I'm just throwing this out there -- Maybe Holder believes like the jury that convicted him, that he's guilty. I know that appears to be beyond the realm of possiblities for you, but you might want to reflect on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3669412675139526125.post-59552668893312405672009-12-21T15:30:08.541-06:002009-12-21T15:30:08.541-06:00Good point, Kevin. You wonder if the truth in the ...Good point, Kevin. You wonder if the truth in the Siegelman case might unleash an avalanche of appeals in cases where the motives of the federal judge could be questioned.<br /><br />Maybe that's what Holder wants to avoid. I guess he thinks it's better to have innocent people in prison--or ruined financially for the rest of their lives.legalschnauzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09619089628125964154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3669412675139526125.post-69873742564754837752009-12-21T15:15:12.659-06:002009-12-21T15:15:12.659-06:00And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
There ar...And this is just the tip of the iceberg.<br /><br />There are other cases like this one where Democrats were prosecuted for being Democrats.<br /><br />Their cases also need to be dismissed.<br /><br />Could these other cases also be a reason why Holder refuses to get involved with the Siegelman case?<br /><br />Kevin SchmidtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com